asciilifeform: !w poll

asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-06-24#1015278 << the key to this 'roman a clef' is quite simple. in usg there are two subgroups -- one is privy to the '90s change of strategy where 'instead of trying to ban pgp / 'make water not wet' -- we'll encourage proliferation of faux crypto and honeypot 'services' ' ; the other, not privy. the latter continue the clinton-era bloviations a la 'clipper' .

asciilifeform: the former actually encourage, to some extent, the latter, deliberately -- it gives flavour of credibility to the honeypot crapola, from chump pov.

asciilifeform: recall the demonstrative wank re ladar levison and his 'lavabit' etc.

asciilifeform: certainly is

asciilifeform: where else.

asciilifeform: originality aint these folx's strong point. the recipe where 'grow controlled pseudo-opposition' worked so well in ex-sovok that it was copied wholesale.

asciilifeform: ... and it worx great. observe that e.g. linux wasn't banned, as such. but at same time 'civilian' can't get hold of an actual linux for love or money.

asciilifeform: and most folx dun even know that ye olde pgp is still, on paper, banned in e.g. fr, jp, ru, de. but 0 prosecutions -- it'd encourage use, naturally.

asciilifeform: in ru in particular they eagerly copied this crypto-circus -- what with 'telegram' and demonstrative 'bans' of it, and similar lavabits.

asciilifeform: anyffin, anyffin to keep folx from even thinking about actual (i.e. where the keyz live on yer hdd and nowhere else) crypto..

asciilifeform: exactly same tactic as the cultivation of 'anonism' to keep chumps from developing wot identities (as described in fact by mp in '13)

asciilifeform: adlai: ?ριθμ??

asciilifeform: adlai: in pre-revolution ru texts, in fact they use the theta in the word

asciilifeform: ( at one time greek loan words were written in fact partially w/ the orig. letters , there )

asciilifeform: adlai: see also : arithm. textbook used in ru for 200+ yrs.

asciilifeform: adlai: in the 1918 reform, letters which had already for centuries been pronounced a la ru, e.g. θ as Ф, ended up merged. process really started under peter, but only ran to completion 200y after his death

asciilifeform: prior to peter, ru alphabet formally included almost all of the greek one.

asciilifeform: adlai: the b00k was interesting item per se -- 1st of its kind there, and peter in fact ennobled the author for having written it

asciilifeform: adlai: influence agents generally aint paid to bang head on wall (at least not perpetually) but to go where they have some roi.

asciilifeform 'refreshingly' not entirely forsaken by these vermin, e.g. the anonism pushers in www comments do still show up

asciilifeform: adlai: which was this, the one with the tedious haskellisms ?

asciilifeform: lol

asciilifeform: adlai: i tend to think of the whole subculture as 'haskellism'

asciilifeform: adlai: that there -- defo subspecies of haskellism